Stella's "Elsie" Von Winston
| Registration ID: | WS20001 |
| Breed: | F2 Mastiff |
| Birth Date: | May 25, 2020 |
| Sex: | Female |
| Collar Color: | Pink |
| Sire: | Saigon's Quarter Back von Q "Winston" |
| Dam: | Saigon's "Stella" Stealth Von Topper |
| Litter: | Winston X Stella 2020 |
Notes
7/1/23 In with Stan Lee!
1-01-2023 Elsie was in with Laddie. We did not see a tie, but will watch for show of her being pregnant or not soon.
Elsie tied with Noodle. No pups. Should be back in heat late August or September 2022. Will be rebred to Laddie for the Fox Project.
Elsie is a pain in the butt as a pup. Too hyper but not as hyper as her siblings. Standoffish towards authority humans but is way too smart to know who doesn't know dogs and will get away with putting humans on the bottom of the pack. She is very agile and can climb, walk on roof tops and get over or under anything. She does have prey drive and likes her food. She will growl at any dog that looks at what is hers, but she is not aggressive for the most part.
Because she is the oldest dog in the kennels, she assumes top bitch position when she can bully the other dog into thinking she can hold her own. She is not a mean dog nor is she a dominate dog. She is capable of doing anything you ask of her, but... her mastiff insides are a bit stubborn, unless there is food involved.
She is highly aware of everything that is going on and knows where everything is located. She can do rescue work as quick as a flash as she would love to find people or animals etc... She is faster than a rottweiler but not as fast as a GSD. She does have a thicker bone that is kind of round. Her mastiff side gives her a nice head and muzzle. Not pointed nor long.
Her tail is a bit curled like a saber and does have a quirk at the end. Her and Pepper were the only two sables in the litter. Her mom and grandfather were Creams. She reminds me a lot of Saigon. She is sensitive in her emotions.
She is in tune with nature and would be able to alert you to any medical conditions or threats. She would not allow a stranger to come through the window at night. She is friendly in the daytime to all people, unless there is something wrong with them, something, evil... she is respectful of autistic persons and will give them a wide birth until you tell her it is ok. She will not like a new person (stranger) being quick towards her. She loves her pack and is dedicated.
Health Record
Duramune Max 5 - 12/27/2021
Was bred with her brother Pepper and had better than both parent pups. Well mannered and aware.
She will be bred with LaddyBoy her second heat to produce our first outcrosses AA x Collie pups..There may be both Fox and Wolf in this litter. 2023 spring/summer.
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Pedigree
Litters
Stan Lee X Elsie 2023
About the Litter (F3 American Alsatian)
9/9/23 Solid, thick, quite pups. Elsie has thrown large pups before, and this time it is the same. These pups are only 3 generations from the Mastiff, so they will be very large. Solid bones, dense and heavy pups. 119 to 145 lbs.
9/3/23 Elsie has 4 puppies doing well at this time! Pictures soon and updates on the puppy pages!
So far, such a quiet litter and just as Elsie has done in the past, the puppies are large!
8/13/23 Elsie looks to be carrying a small litter. 2 maybe again?
7/3/23 Stan Lee and Elsie have tied. Elsie is known to produce very large pups, this litter will more than likely be anywhere from 112 lb on the larger females with males going upwards of 140. Smaller females and smaller males will stay a little under or slightly above 100 lb.
WHY? Elsie X Stan Lee: Ticking
What we will get:
Coat color, eyes and ears: Up ears and yellow eyes. Coat colors will vary from silver sables to cream sables with ticking?
Coats: Variety of long to short.
Weight: 75 to 120lbs (I believe a few of these pups will be slightly larger than 120)
Temperaments: Between 6 - 8.5 Temperament Scores
Price: $1,800 and up. (Dependent on litter size)
Interested:
10/3/2023 Erick Biron
Sean Garell (Not on waiting list, but no reply)
Pepper X Elsie 2021
About the Litter (American Alsatian)
Elsie was bred to her brother 'Pepper' in her first season in hopes of getting any fox project pups. What we ended up getting was Saigon duplicates as Saigon was the grandmother on both sides (4x) which quadrupled all dogs down the line in the Saigon's pedigree. We also doubled Winston which is and F-1 out of Englsih Mastiff lines so we ended up getting some very LARGE puppies which blew me away.
Saigon is not a really LARGE dog, so i thought she would make smaller pups in the uplines, especially since the mother of these two dogs "Stella" was not a large dog herself. Put that together with the INBREEDING going on, and i figured we would get small pups. Well that did not happen. We got DIREWOLVES...
At the time of this writting, her brother is now a mastiff direwolf, with a very thick neck and broad shoulders. He was the runt of the litter! Go figure??? Very slow growing into his own.
Elsie herself was slow in growth and both Pepper and Elsie were what i considered the 'runts' of the litter.
We were going to keep the JOKER but God put a new owner in front of me that needed him. We could always rebred this litter again since we only had 2 pups.
